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		<title>Our lot at 60 Three Brooks Drive is up for sale</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 22:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jeff White</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[You can view our listing with Wayne Cochrane, our Exit Optimum realtor, right here.
It&#8217;s with a heavy heart that I post this, but we&#8217;ve decided to put our lot up for sale. This isn&#8217;t what we wanted to do. But, the options weren&#8217;t really working in our favour and it seems like the best choice [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can view our listing with Wayne Cochrane, our Exit Optimum realtor, <a href="http://www.realtor.ca/PropertyDetails.aspx?PropertyID=8251556">right here</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s with a heavy heart that I post this, but we&#8217;ve decided to put our lot up for sale. This isn&#8217;t what we wanted to do. But, the options weren&#8217;t really working in our favour and it seems like the best choice at this time. Part of me wants to hang on to it, and if we&#8217;d put more into the payments, I think that would likely be what I would do. But, we were really just making interest payments against the line of credit plus a little bit of principle, so it&#8217;s not really building any equity for us right now. </p>
<p>If it doesn&#8217;t sell, then we&#8217;ll likely hang on to it. Land is never a bad investment, but I hate having debt hanging over my head, and as a small business owner, I&#8217;d rather have less debt and more flexibility in case something goes wrong. Thankfully, business is flat out great, so that doesn&#8217;t appear to be an issue, but I&#8217;m fiscally conservative.</p>
<p>We have no intention of selling for a penny less than we paid. I&#8217;d love to have made back some of our other costs as well, but I don&#8217;t think that will happen, we&#8217;ll have to write it off as sunk cost. </p>
<p>So, in the end what did this little experiment cost?</p>
<ul>
<li>$1,800 on the land for 12 months of payments</li>
<li>$1,300 for the plans our architect drew (basically the kill fee, it would have been much more had we gone all the way)</li>
<li>$1,500 for a topographical survey</li>
<li>$170 for an engineer to review the lot for services</li>
<li>$1,100 for the first year of betterment fees</li>
<li>$580 for property tax</li>
<li>$35 to Three Brooks homeowners association dues</li>
</ul>
<p>So, we&#8217;ve paid <strong>$6485</strong> for this little experiment. Ouch. I guess this is still far cheaper than if everything went pear shaped after starting to build.</p>
<p>We already have a couple interested in the lot who are coming back from vacation soon. Here&#8217;s hoping they&#8217;re interested.</p>
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		<title>Looks like we&#8217;re at the end of the line</title>
		<link>http://buildingthewhitehouse.com/2009/04/looks-like-were-at-the-end-of-the-line/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 19:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jeff White</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[We bought our land at 60 Three Brooks Drive almost a year ago now. In that time, we&#8217;ve been through everything from designing a &#8216;dream&#8217; house, to downsizing this ideal, to pricing this out, to looking at kit houses. At long last, we found a house that we felt we might be able to afford [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We bought our land at 60 Three Brooks Drive almost a year ago now. In that time, we&#8217;ve been through everything from designing a &#8216;dream&#8217; house, to downsizing this ideal, to pricing this out, to looking at kit houses. At long last, we found a house that we felt we might be able to afford from Lindal Cedar Homes. It had the feeling we were looking for, with passive solar features and the space we need for a family of five.</p>
<p>We spoke with the bank last week, and got a call back on Friday. It&#8217;s not pretty. </p>
<p>Some background: currently, we pay about $1,400 a month for a mortgage (including property taxes) on our current house. Our oil budget for heating costs us $250-300/month. We were hoping to basically break even between the new mortgage and the savings on heating costs. We&#8217;re also stuck in a relationship with Scotiabank, the mafia of Canadian banks. We can break our current mortgage and get another with them, but we can&#8217;t go elsewhere without paying a substantial penalty. </p>
<p>So, here&#8217;s our two options:</p>
<ol>
<li>$1,952/month + property taxes plus supplementary heating costs. Before-heating costs would likely be close to $2,200 or more. This is based on us getting approval for the mortgage now, moving ahead with the new house and putting ours up for sale as we get closer to the completion date of the new house. We&#8217;d then have the &#8216;privilege&#8217; of putting the proceeds of sale of our old house down on the mortgage. This would lower the principal by whatever we had available, but would not affect our monthly costs.  </li>
<li>Sell our house now, arrange the new mortgage using the proceeds of sale as a (substantial) down payment, book the build of the new house, find an apartment for our family for the 4-6 months the build would take, and then move in. We figured that if we had $60,000 to put down, this would give us a pre-tax total of $1,679/month. The total with taxes would be about $1,930. </li>
</ol>
<p>Obviously neither of these options is really going to work for us. Add to this that with option 2 we&#8217;d also be paying rent for at least four months, and have to put most of our stuff in storage. Given that we have a large dog and three small kids and my business to run, this would not be the easiest of options.</p>
<p>We knew that the house itself was going to cost more than where we currently are. However, we were not prepared to pay $500+ more per month for it. Although we truly believe in passive solar as a heating framework, we know that we&#8217;ll need something to back it up. Friend of ours who just built a house with a heatpump are currently being surprised by their $600-800 electric bills (bi-monthly, I think). This was our first choice as a secondary heat source. I can only imagine if we went with the $2,200 option and then had winter heat costs of $400/month. </p>
<p>We&#8217;ve talked this over exhaustively and I&#8217;m pretty sure we&#8217;re at the end of the line. I know that if we <em>really </em>wanted to do this, we could pursue option 2. However, the whole wheat Mini Wheat side of me says that this is a foolish idea. </p>
<p>I think we&#8217;re going to stay here. Much has changed since we decided to buy the lot. We have new neighbours who are both awesome and our age. We&#8217;ve made some changes to our current house that make it much more livable. All of our landscaping is done. High oil heating costs (at least for the moment) have subsided. </p>
<p>We can make some more changes that will reduce our environmental footprint here and make our house more enjoyable to live in. We could make radical changes to the interior of our house if we really wanted to, and still come out ahead on costs. </p>
<p>Watch for an upcoming post on the sale of our lot and what we&#8217;ve learned/spent throughout this process.</p>
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		<title>Onto the bank!</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 00:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jeff White</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[I met with Cam from A Cut Above today. They&#8217;re the local Lindal Cedar Homes dealer, based out of the old Ron&#8217;s Army Navy building in Burnside. 
Cam and his business partner met me out at our lot last week. He agrees that it&#8217;s the perfect lot for a modern, environmentally designed house. 
And today, he delivered. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I met with Cam from A Cut Above today. They&#8217;re the local Lindal Cedar Homes dealer, based out of the old Ron&#8217;s Army Navy building in Burnside. </p>
<p><div id="attachment_163" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 410px"><a href="http://buildingthewhitehouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/td1-2400-rendering.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-163" title="Turkel Design Lindal TD1 2400 rendering" src="http://buildingthewhitehouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/td1-2400-rendering-400x228.jpg" alt="Turkel Design Lindal TD1 2400 rendering" width="400" height="228" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Turkel Design Lindal TD1 2400 rendering</p></div></p>
<p>Cam and his business partner met me out at our lot last week. He agrees that it&#8217;s the perfect lot for a modern, environmentally designed house. </p>
<p>And today, he delivered. A quote that is well within what we think we can afford. Obviously, we haven&#8217;t met with our bank yet, so this may still be a pipe dream, but it seems like it should be possible. Cam worked with Joel Turkel of Turkel Designs and Lindal to look for areas to cut cost to bring the house in line with where we want to be. They changed things like siding (not a huge concern), windows from cedar to colour-keyed vinyl windows (still good quality), got rid of the cedar ceiling liner (I wanted to do that anyway) and a doable, if tight budget for heating, bathroom appliances and cabinetry. We&#8217;re bargainers so I think we can make this work. </p>
<p>All told, A Cut Above beat our price by $6,000. </p>
<p>Now, I just need to meet with the bank and see if this is even possible. The house is just what we wanted:</p>
<ul>
<li>energy efficient, passive solar design</li>
<li>built on an engineered slab</li>
<li>funky and different</li>
<li>architecturally designed</li>
<li>tons of windows (41!) and light</li>
<li>open concept living space with kitchen</li>
<li>still has a fireplace, but we&#8217;d go propane just for atmosphere. We love our current propane fireplace.</li>
</ul>
<div>Anyway, it&#8217;s looking like this could move ahead after all. I&#8217;m still not holding my breath, but this seems like a reasonable option right now.</div>
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		<title>Lindal Cedar home or stay where we are?</title>
		<link>http://buildingthewhitehouse.com/2009/03/lindal-cedar-home-or-stay-where-we-are/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jeff White</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[So, here we are. We&#8217;ve exhausted the custom architect-designed route. Still waiting for that second quote, but I&#8217;ll give you the range of the first one:
$500-600,000. Yeah, it blew my mind too. Especially since we had given our max budget as $300,000. The quote was under $500k with HST, plus the $50k for our lot. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, here we are. We&#8217;ve exhausted the custom architect-designed route. Still waiting for that second quote, but I&#8217;ll give you the range of the first one:</p>
<p>$500-600,000. <em>Yeah, it blew my mind too</em>. Especially since we had given our max budget as $300,000. The quote was under $500k with HST, plus the $50k for our lot. Then, if you added additional expenses for cabinets and blasting, not to mention cost overruns and the mechanical requirements of a solar house (which weren&#8217;t included because they weren&#8217;t quite sure what to do) and you have a <strong>very </strong>expensive, pretty small house. Not only that, but it&#8217;s so customized to our needs, if ever did need to resell it, we&#8217;d never make those kinds of costs back. </p>
<p>So. Where does that leave us? In my last post I talked about how we were now looking into Lindal and Interhabs kit homes. We spent the other night meeting with Richard Tolson at Interhabs, reviewing costs and looking at the <a href="http://www.interhabs.ns.ca/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=46&amp;Itemid=81">Eurohab 3 and 4</a>. Now, we really like the Interhabs houses. But, we don&#8217;t <em>love</em> them. They seem like they might be dark inside as there aren&#8217;t a lot of windows. We were assured they weren&#8217;t dark inside, but we can&#8217;t shake the feeling that they might be darker than our current house without expensive modifications. That, plus the cost issue. For the size of house we need with some decent storage, we&#8217;re still blowing our budget. Even if we traded some web design work, it still wouldn&#8217;t get to the point where we would feel comfortable taking on a high mortgage right now.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a fan of debt. It makes me very uneasy. And today&#8217;s economy certainly isn&#8217;t helping to make it better. Right now, we have a good mortgage rate with Scotiabank (it&#8217;s not as good as some, but it&#8217;s still acceptable). We can afford where we are quite comfortably. We have great neighbours our own age with lots of kids in the area. Next year Amelia starts school, and she&#8217;ll get to go to the school my wife teaches at. To my wife, this is a HUGE deal. I&#8217;m not sure why, but it is. </p>
<p>So, have we given up on our dream of building on this lot? Not yet. On Tuesday, I&#8217;m meeting with Cam from A Cut Above, a local Lindal Cedar home dealer. Last weekend we sat through a webinar with Joel Turkel, who has designed some amazing passive solar houses that are available as kit homes. We&#8217;ve given him our budget and he is trying to work out something for us to get us into a <a href="http://www.turkeldesign.com/images/partners/TD1%20-%202400%20-%20Rendering.jpg">TD1 2400</a>. I&#8217;m not confident that they can lower the cost enough to make it work.</p>
<p>So, where are we with this now? Well, I see a few options:</p>
<ul>
<li>Stay in our current house and hold onto the land for the future. I don&#8217;t love this idea as we&#8217;re not making huge payments on the lot right now as we were planning to build on it pretty quickly. Paying interest on something I don&#8217;t own is not a smart strategy in my opinion. I&#8217;d love to sell it for a small profit.</li>
<li>Sell the lot and stay in our house. Utilize some of the tax credits that are available to renovate the house. Add solar hotwater. Plant some trees to get shade in the backyard. Finish the basement and modify the main floor to open it up somewhat. Obviously, these all cost money, but we can pick away at them one at a time so it doesn&#8217;t need to be huge.</li>
<li>See what Lindal can do, and approach our bank just to confirm what it would cost. I think we may do this if they can manage to keep the cost under $300,000. We&#8217;ll see though.</li>
</ul>
<div>Let me know what you would do if you were in this position.</div>
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		<title>In a better place today</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 19:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jeff White</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[My wife and I have been spending a ton of time over the last few days lamenting where we went wrong with this project and what we should do from here. Our conversations (ok, occasionally fights) have ranged from &#8220;let&#8217;s just sell it and get the hell out&#8221;, to &#8220;let&#8217;s look at alternatives, or maybe [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife and I have been spending a ton of time over the last few days lamenting where we went wrong with this project and what we should do from here. Our conversations (ok, occasionally fights) have ranged from &#8220;let&#8217;s just sell it and get the hell out&#8221;, to &#8220;let&#8217;s look at alternatives, or maybe even build another Ramar house on the lot&#8221; (shudder). </p>
<p>Where we&#8217;ve ended up is somewhere in the middle. We had a pretty good call with Monica (our architect/designer) the other night. We settled on what we both believe is a fair kill fee, and we&#8217;ve left the option open to come back to this should we find a way to pull it off. This was a big relief for us, as Monica and her husband Greg are very good friends of ours and we don&#8217;t want to lose that friendship with the house project. Thankfully, Monica is a wonderful, yet pragmatic person. There&#8217;s no question that this wasn&#8217;t cheap, but as she said in our call, it&#8217;s certainly not for naught. We learned quite a bit in the process and as I like to say to my clients, it&#8217;s good to be <em>usefully wrong</em>. </p>
<p>So, where does that leave us? There&#8217;s no question in our minds that a traditional house is out of the question. This rules out all of the local builders like Ramar, Sawler or Scotian Homes. We simply don&#8217;t feel &#8216;at home&#8217; in a saltbox or traditional split entry or two story. I know this probably sounds arrogant, but there&#8217;s a sense of relaxation I have when I enter an architecturally designed/modernist home that I just don&#8217;t feel in our house. I like it here, but I don&#8217;t <em>love it</em>.</p>
<p>We talked about taking the budget we have (about $300,000) and perhaps buying a house on the main Halifax peninsula. Seemed like a good idea, until we searched MLS. To me, this sounds like a <strong>lot </strong>of money, but it&#8217;s just not. Even $350,000 in the west, central or south end gets you a 70 year old house, in need of major repairs with small rooms and next to no driveway. I&#8217;ve lived in an old house before and have the scars to prove it. We have done the reno thing and although it&#8217;s pretty rewarding, I just don&#8217;t have that kind of time or the additional budget. Plus, even though we&#8217;d be in the city we&#8217;d probably still need to keep a second car which isn&#8217;t optimal.</p>
<p>When we first started this project, my mother-in-law said &#8220;Why don&#8217;t you consider <a href="http://lindal.com/">Lindal</a> or <a href="http://interhabs.ns.ca">Interhabs</a>?&#8221; Lindal builds beautiful cedar homes and Interhabs has a collection of amazing modern kit homes built right here in Nova Scotia. We hadn&#8217;t considered this because we were pretty set on a specific path (if you know me, you&#8217;ll understand). Secondly, there&#8217;s a stigma attached to a &#8216;kit home&#8217;, but the more we explore it, the more we like the idea. Kit homes have come a long way and there&#8217;s some pretty amazing detailing in each of these houses. </p>
<p><div class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 170px"><a href="http://www.interhabs.ns.ca/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=36&amp;Itemid=69"><img title="Interhabs Whistler" src="http://www.interhabs.ns.ca/images/stories/homeplans/whistler_pic1.jpg" alt="Interhabs Whistler" width="160" height="160" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Interhabs Whistler</p></div></p>
<p>Yesterday, I swung by the Interhabs office in Bedford and just happened to catch Richard Tolson who was stopping in to check his email. He gave me some brochures on their houses and there are a few that we just love. I also really dug Richard&#8217;s style and attitude and understanding of the business. We&#8217;re planning to setup a meeting with Interhabs asap. The houses we&#8217;re looking at are the <a href="http://www.interhabs.ns.ca/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=36&amp;Itemid=69">Whistler</a>, the <a href="http://www.interhabs.ns.ca/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=70&amp;Itemid=118">High Tech 2003</a>, the<a href="http://www.interhabs.ns.ca/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=46&amp;Itemid=81"> Eurohab 4</a> and the <a href="http://www.interhabs.ns.ca/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=38&amp;Itemid=72">Corner Brook Cape</a>. They&#8217;re not quite as modern as what we had designed, but we&#8217;ve always liked them and the great thing about these houses is that your pricing is much more predictable. The cost of most of the these kits is about $100,000 and according to the people we spoke with at Interhabs, by the time all is said and done they come in at about 2.5 times that. Not bad at all, and very cool.</p>
<p><div class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 515px"><a href="http://www.turkeldesign.com/meetus.php?m=2&amp;p=1&amp;s=m#"><img title="Turkel Design Lindal House" src="http://www.turkeldesign.com/images/partners/TD3%20-%202400%20-%20Rendering.jpg" alt="Turkel Design Lindal House" width="505" height="505" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Turkel Design Lindal House</p></div></p>
<p>Last night we attended the Home Show at the Halifax Forum. Compared to last fall, we had a much more open mind as we no longer have a singular vision of how this project should end. We browsed the aisles, looking for cool builders and eco-friendly technologies. We looked at solar panels and other eco-heating/energy options but ultimately ended up at the Lindal Homes booth. My wife Sam grew up in a Lindal cedar home, and we&#8217;ve both always admired it. It&#8217;s really amazing and very different from your average house. We spoke with the dealer/builder for about a half hour and arranged for a site visit this week. We also reviewed some of their plans and talked about budget. They are generally quite willing to work within a specific budget, which is pretty cool. We also discovered a new line of Lindal homes, designed by Turkel Design in the US. These are modern, architect-designed kit homes and they are flat out amazing. Exactly what we were looking for. They are also looking for people in Nova Scotia to become early adopters of these houses, which is exactly where we want to be. </p>
<p>We also met the folks at <a href="http://www.legalett.ca/">Legallet</a> Foundations, someone a client of mine has used on his new house. These air-tight energy-efficient slab systems are amazing. For about $27,500, you can have a slab system in our size range with active evacuated-tube solar heating and hot water. Incredible!</p>
<p>Anyway, all this to say that we&#8217;re still in the game, and we&#8217;re excited again about where this can go. Before we headed to the home show last night, we swung by the property and walked through knee-deep patches of snow to see what we still thought. After 20 minutes on-site, one thing became clear: we&#8217;re not ready to give up just yet!</p>
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		<title>Reality Check.</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jeff White</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, what an eye opener this project is turning into. In total, I think we approached five builders to ask them about looking into our project. One turned us down via email before even looking at it (maybe this site scared him off? I dunno). One turned us down after spending an hour meeting with [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, what an eye opener this project is turning into. In total, I think we approached five builders to ask them about looking into our project. One turned us down via email before even looking at it (maybe this site scared him off? I dunno). One turned us down after spending an hour meeting with us. He waited until the very end of the meeting to do so. One (State Homes) took on pricing the project but after numerous clarification phone calls and a fairly terse email exchange, decided not to pursue it. As Vern put it, &#8220;there&#8217;s no way to provide an accurate quote with these plans&#8221;. It seemed that our plans were more preliminary than we realized, and for a builder not used to dealing with architect&#8217;s drawings, it was hard for him to nail down. Fair enough, I can respect that. I was kind of ticked off at first, but I&#8217;m coming to realize that there are pretty different types of builders and some just don&#8217;t know how to work with this kind of thing. That left two builders. One who generally builds spec houses that we&#8217;re still waiting on, and lastly Black Diamond Builders, who are a client of my company&#8217;s and build some truly remarkable homes.</p>
<p>So, this morning we had the opportunity to finally see some pricing from Black Diamond. Let me start off by saying that pricing these sorts of projects is NOT an easy task. These builders have to work with their subcontractors, using drawings that aren&#8217;t always accurate and come up with a price they can stand behind within a certain tolerance range. It&#8217;s at least a solid few month&#8217;s work to put together a quote and the level of detail and specification goes well beyond most of the RFPs we as web/graphic designers have to go through. Andrew from BDB figures that the price he gave us this morning is pretty accurate within about 10% or less. Which is pretty good, given how much interpretation is required with the plans we have.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s just say though that we were taken aback by the price we received. I&#8217;m not going to reveal the costs until we&#8217;ve received both quotes, but it&#8217;s substantially more than expected. About 1.5-2 times as much as we can afford. Once we make a few modifications, we&#8217;ll likely be on our way north of a very uncomfortable number. Even if we cut some things like the cedar exterior siding, metal roof and a few other items for more &#8216;normal&#8217; finishes, we&#8217;ll still save less than $40,000 off the quoted price and the allowances we have are pretty tight as well for cabinetry and flooring. The septic could be more expensive than anticipated and there&#8217;s no allowances at all for blasting and this is pretty rocky land.</p>
<p>So, where does this leave us? Pretty disappointed, for sure. I highly doubt the second quote will come in anywhere near where we need to be and if it does, we&#8217;ll be questioning the reasons why it&#8217;s so much less than the one we received today.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re not prepared to sell the lot just yet. We truly love where it is, the community it&#8217;s in and the people in the neighbourhood. But, I think that the house we have designed is out of reach. It&#8217;s a shame as it may only be a very expensive piece of paper for us, but that&#8217;s a lesson we&#8217;ve had to learn the hard way.</p>
<p>We may yet build something on this land, but I&#8217;m not sure if it will be the house we&#8217;ve seen to this point. Alternatively, we may get the lot approved with a test pit and try to make a few bucks on it in a sale once the housing market recovers. If that&#8217;s the case, we&#8217;ll likely make some energy efficient renovations to our existing house and keep it, or sell and look for something on peninsular Halifax.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know where this is headed, but it&#8217;s not where I expected when we started, that&#8217;s for certain.</p>
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